we've got pothole problems here in wisconsin. our highways are terrible. can we use this money for that, and lahood was emphatic that money -- melissa: he was? >> that would be unprecedented, we can't use this for potholes. if you want the money, you will use it for here-speed rail. melissa: so what do you think about that? it's amazing he sort of has amnesia about this. it's amazing that in that interview on npr he wasn't challenged on any of these issues. he just skated along freely. >> yeah. you know, he's got this really incredible vision, but the sad thing about it is the u.s. budget can't really support his vision. and you know, i think the sad part is he talks about stimulus, and the stimulus is going to help the small businessman, but the reality is we've really completely lost all of our trust in any type of stimulus making it down to that businessman. and so, you know, the whole premise to where he's headed is really, doesn't have any credibility. melissa: james, last word. 21 billion went on tax incentives for energy efficiency for renewable ene